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how to insert photo with its absolute original size?

Hello :)

 I have been  searching for a wy to keep my photos in BookSmart with their original absolute size: the photo that I have was scanned and prepared keeping its original dimention – i.e. 3.45×5.22 inches. Now, while I insert it in BookSmart templates, the photo changes size to the photo containers that I have available. Is there a way to keep the photo original print size, so the photo will be printed in 3.45×5.22 inches?

 

Thank you

Alberto

 

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Posted by
alberto_m
Jun 3, 2008 8:10am PDT
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alberto_m
 

Hello Alberto;

You need to find a template that has an image container bigger than your photo size…

Then… after you have dragged the image into the conatiner… simply use the "Centre Align Image (don’t crop)" button to place the whole image in the middle of the container… It’s the tool on the Image Editing Bar with a solid-block in the middle of a frame…

Good luckl

Cheers;

Lee

Posted by
lkb-28
Jun 3, 2008 8:43am PDT
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lkb-28
 

Lee,

 With that button, the image simply doesn’t crop, but it enlarges to the container size: my image have 2,483×3,827 inches with a 300dpi resolution, which will be smaller than the container, which have 5,3×7,1 inches size. The result, with that button, is that my image will be 7,1 size tall, which is not what I want.

 Thank you, anyway

A.

 

Posted by
alberto_m
Jun 3, 2008 8:59am PDT
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alberto_m
 

Hi Alberto;

With that button, the image simply doesn’t crop, but it enlarges to the container size: my image have 2,483×3,827 inches with a 300dpi resolution

That’s you rpoblem!

IF your image size is 2483×3827 – at 300dpi you have an image 8.28" x 12.76", so there’s no way it’s goping to fit a container of 5.3×7.1!

In that case drag the image in to the container, and then use the Zoom/Crop tool to reduce the image size unti it does fir the conatiner…

...or re-size the image in PhotoShop first if you really do want an exact dimension…

Cheers;

Lee

Posted by
lkb-28
Jun 3, 2008 9:13am PDT
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lkb-28
 

Erm..

no Lee, the image have – in the Image/Size window in PhotoShop – the following size data:

Pixel Dimensions:  width 745 px ; height 1148 px

Document size: width 2,483" ; height 3,827" ; Resolution 300 pixels/inch

what could be wrong?

 A.

Posted by
alberto_m
Jun 3, 2008 9:31am PDT
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alberto_m
 

You don’t want the "centre align" button, as that one DOES stretch to fit - you want to use either the "align top and left" or "align bottom and right" buttons (I can’t remember the exact name but from memory they have a picture of the photo in one corner of the template). Those buttons DON’T stretch the pic to fit, but will position it in one corner of the template.

 If you then want the picture centred in the template you can drag it with the mouse or use the cursor keys to move it around.

Posted by
robkingston
Jun 3, 2008 10:34am PDT
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robkingston
 

No, those buttons ("align top and left" or "align bottom and right") do the fit effect, moving the zoom slide switch according to the "fitting factor".

The only way to simulate the image original size is to "play" with the zoom slide switch or preparing a canvas externally  with the size of the photo container, which I would like to avoid, as it will make me a loss of creativity if I want to preserve the original image size, due to the different sizes of templates.

 

Posted by
alberto_m
Jun 3, 2008 10:52am PDT
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alberto_m
 

Hello Alberto;

My apologies for mis-reading your post about the image size… I didn’t see "inches". Sorry.

Apparently BookSmart has changed the manner in which it operates – and it’s definately a degredation…

The "Image Align" (don’t crop)" buttons USED to do what they demonstrate in the icons as doing. I.e Centre-align, Top-left or Bottom-right… without cropping or stretching…

However…

... I just imported a very small image as a test and now BooKSmart wants to stretch the image to fill the container. I think this is a bug in the new release! I’m sure it’s not supposed to work that way, and it’s not the way it has worked (for me) in past releases!

I’m beginning to wish I hadn’t upgraded!

So, for now, I guess the only way to re-size images is to use the slide control… and I agree that it loses a lot of control!

Cheers;

Lee

Posted by
lkb-28
Jun 3, 2008 11:08am PDT
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lkb-28
 

Thank you, Lee.

 I think what I will do will be to have an extra work preparing the images with a white canvas with the same size of the image containers – what will make me loose lots of freedom in trying the imeges indifferent templates. ...

 thanks, again

Alberto

 

Posted by
alberto_m
Jun 3, 2008 12:14pm PDT
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alberto_m
 

Hello Alberto;

FYI - I submitted this as a bug to Blurb. Don’t have any idea of when they might fix it… but hopefully it will be done…

I was surprised to find it not working correctly in the latest release, because I have used those "align" tools quite succesfully on multi-frame tempaltes in the past – now – as you say – it will be a bind to have to do this manually in PhotoSHop or whatever you use…

Cheers;

Lee

Posted by
lkb-28
Jun 4, 2008 5:48am PDT
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lkb-28
 

Thank you again, Lee.

I’ve already made my work creating a canvas with the size of each container for each photo.

 A.

 

Posted by
alberto_m
Jun 5, 2008 1:26am PDT
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alberto_m
 

Hello Alberto;

I thought a follow-up might be useful here fo all/any others that encounter this problem…

To re-cap, the "Align" tools used to function in the manner the Icons display them as doing… I.e to "align" without cropping (or stretching)...

I filed a "bug report" with Blurb that the "Align" tools were now stretching images across a container and NOT centreing as indicated, and this was their reply;

I’m sorry for the inconvenience, but this is how these buttons work now. I’d recommend using photo editing software to truly edit your photos, as the image alignment buttons are somewhat more basic than those in photo editing software.

I’m sorry I can’t help you further, but your feedback is helpful towards creating future versions.

I have this morning filed a response;

Thank you for responding…
With respect – if this is the way the "Align" tools are now supposed to work – then it is a definately a downgrade, and I suggest that Blurb need to re-review the use and (importantly) the presentation of these tools and icons…
In these cases I am not expecting BookSmart to be an image editor… In fact, all I want is for BookSmart to do what the tools used to do, and what the Icons represent the tools as doing… On the contrary, BookSmart is now applying a "stretch" to my image where no stretch is required or desired, so YOU are in fact editing and re-sizing my image automatically and out of my control…
That means, that, unless I can find a container which has an EXACT size for my image (highly unlikely) then BookSmart will now stretch all and any images to fit a container whether I want it or not! Surely that can’t be how the design is supposed to work!
The alternative now, is that I have to drag the image in, use the align tools if I want, and then use the zoom-slider AND try & re-position with the arrow keys… Not at all useful when there are no guidelines or pixel markers available to determine whether or not I have succesfully re-sized, and re-centered the image correctly and IMPOSSIBLE to do so if I as a user want to align images across a number of containers or pages…
I cannot iamgine the grief that hundreds (maybe even thousands) of potential users might go through when importing small resolution images for use, because they will now have to re-work each and every image that’s imported…
I urge Blurb to seriously re-consider the design of these tools and revert to how they used to work…
Failing that, then the Icons need to be changed, because they now mis-represent what the tools do!
I would appreciate your further reply and /or input…
I will post up any further reply IF I get one… I really do think this is a bad move on Blurb’s part…
Cheers;
Lee

 

Posted by
lkb-28
Jun 6, 2008 1:20am PDT
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lkb-28
 

Just to kep anyone who’s interested up to speed, I had another response from Blurb…

BookSmart should not be stretching the image. Please know that when you first drop your image in, images are not cropped. You can then use the tools to crop them and move them around within a container.

We encourage people to mouseover image containers to make sure a given image is the appropriate size for a particular container.
 

See next post for my further response…

Lee

Posted by
lkb-28
Jun 7, 2008 8:43am PDT
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lkb-28
 

Further response to Blurb support…

Thanks again for responding…
I am very pleased that you agree with me that "BookSmart should not be stretching the image."
Regrettably – that is exactly what it DOES do!
You also say… "...when you first drop your image in, images are not cropped."
Again, regrettably, BookSmart is clearly no longer acting correctly…
I have carried out a number of tests, dragging in images of all different sizes, to all different book sizes, and using a variety of containers…
WITHOUT FAIL, BookSmart now fills the whole container – regardless of image size, and regardless of image dimension…
So, a very small image is now stretched beyond limits so that it fills even the biggest of containers – and that is WITHOUT doing anything other than dragging the image in from the "My Imported Photos" bank…
Let me know if you require any further screen prints, although it’s an easy enough test to do!
Look forward to hearing further from you…
As before, I’ll post up any further correspondence…
Would be interested to hear from Tony or Rob if you can replicate this problem.
Create a very small image – say 100×100 pixels and import it into any book size, and then drag it into ANY container…
In my BookSmart, the drag now fills the entire container, regardless of container size, and regardless of image size… So it’s no longer possible (in my current (latest release) of BookSmart) to use any of the tools to automatically size the image to actual!
Cheers;
Lee
Posted by
lkb-28
Jun 7, 2008 8:47am PDT
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lkb-28
 

Lee-

Although I do not have the experience with BookSmart that Tony and Rob do, I just wanted to chime in and let you know that I also have this issue with the current version of BookSmart.  I just completed my book and I did find it somewhat frustrating to try to ‘unstretch’ images.   It was only a short book of a weekend trip to San Francisco so I just dealt with it.  However, eventually I will be working ona book of old and current family photos, and that will be a bigger headache if the stretching still occurs since I will have so many more photos to work with.

I also wanted to give you a shout of ‘thanks!’ for pursuing this issue with Blurb.  For relatively new users like me, it’s hard to determine whether something annoying is just a quirk of the software, or if it’s something that has recently been changed in the upgrades. 

Regina

Posted by
rbgool
Jun 7, 2008 4:33pm PDT
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rbgool
 

Hi Lee!

Yes, I can replicate it. I hadn’t come across the problem with my current book as I am cropping and sizing the photos to fit the containers. But my next book is a serires of photos of my mother and I was intending to do this one with standard templates and as little Photoshop processing as possible.

The chances of these photos fitting an image container exactly are remote so I tried a few to see what happens and I get exactly the same result as you. The photos are stretched to fill the container and distorted beyond acceptability. This just has to be fixed or customers will basically have to give up using the supplied templates.

Let us know how you get on. You have my backing.

I am on version 1.9.5.23254 if that helps Blurb

........Tony

Posted by
tfrankland
Jun 8, 2008 12:17am PDT
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tfrankland
 

Tony / Regina;

MANY THANKS…. That’s good news (for me!). I had feared that this was just another out-of-the-ordinary system glitch that BookSmart displays from time to time… but now I can get stuck into Blurb Support with the confidence that it’s not just me!

I had not really uncovered it before, because typically my images are over-large for the containers… It was not until I addressed a post by Alberto (see top of this thread) that it came to light…

BUT; I agree – I think it imperative that Blurb fix this a.s.a.p.

Tony: FYI – I am also now on 1.9.5.23254… (I relented and upgraded!!!)

Cheers;

Lee

Posted by
lkb-28
Jun 8, 2008 12:41am PDT
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lkb-28
 

Hi all;

Update… Problem has been elevated to a "lead tech specialist" !

Lee

Posted by
lkb-28
Jun 9, 2008 1:54pm PDT
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lkb-28
 

I’ll be sticking with 1.9.4 then – the buttons do what they are supposed to!

Posted by
robkingston
Jun 10, 2008 6:05pm PDT
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robkingston