Welcome Sign out
Shopping Cart My Account Order History Sign in Not yet a member? Help

BookSmart

Quality of Blurb archival paper in question

I don’t know if that is just me, but I ordered this product, “How To Make A Book” by the Blurberati.

The thing is that I notice the images on “matte” paper seem to be a bit grainy-like or something. In my humble opinion is that I think “glossy” probably looks a lot better than matte.

Is it possible for Blurb to offer a variety of high quality, more professional quality of archival papers, such as semi-glossy, glossy, or matte?

The reason on why I ordered the book, “How To Make A Book”, I wasn’t sure what to expect of Blurb bookstore-quality book looks. I like what I saw, but the quality of paper seem to be in question.

I would strongly encourage Blurb team to consider to include at least two or three variety of high quality photo & archival-quality papers under consideration.

Additionally, I also wonder if is it possible to offer leather – hard cover book. Of course, it is a bit more expensive, but I would love to see it being offered at Blurb.

If Blurb offer a lot of variety of high quality photo & archival (museum-like) papers, and leather hard cover and few other “pretty darn neat” stuff offered at Blurb—that will set Blurb a big difference among other competitors in the industry.

I always believe that “being different” is truly a cool niche for me. I don’t know what other Blurberatis think.

I have been working on a couple of books under development. But I kinda holding it back for some reason. Because I am very, very fussy about quality of photo / archival (museum-like) paper.

All in all, finally, I am glad that Blurb finally offer Forums! I truly believe that this benefit everyone, both as customers and Blurb team as well. I look forward to contribute myself to make Blurb a better place to do the business with and help it grow.

Thanks,
Brian

Replytopic_b_normal
Posted by
brianbonitz
Jul 26, 2007 1:43am PDT
Permalink
brianbonitz
 

Anyone?

I believe this is very important, in my humble, plain opinion.

Once again, thanks in advance,
Brian

Posted by
brianbonitz
Jul 26, 2007 3:44pm PDT
Permalink
brianbonitz
 

I agree with Brian that there should be a selection of higher grade materials – even if limited, that higher end should include at least one example of the choicest or most robustly archival paper. From my own perspective, I know that the few people buying one of my books will want them on the best materials. I think that if the forums are new, that they are a healthy sign of life and a smart move. Forums show all observers that the site is not static, and they are a wealth of information for the site managers. Everybody wins! -EH

Posted by
Huse
Jul 27, 2007 9:27am PDT
Permalink
Huse
 

I agree with Brian as well. 

A number of other book makers out there offer the basic papers for the snap shooters and then offer a PRO or Pro-Photographer standard for those wanting the higher end, at a slightly higher cost of course, we all accept that.

It would be nicer to have that extra service offered and if your print quality would become consistent then I’m sure your volume of orders for this service would increase substantialy.

In today’s world of one off book printing I am not alone in thinking that it is a matter of neccessity to offer the higher end of photo archival paper in 2 to 3 differing surface textures.  All photo labs offer this and many of them now also offer book printing so it might be time for Blurb to consider moving down this avenue to bring in some of the lab business that you may well be missing out on at the moment.

I would also strongly suggest a thicker paper be used for this upmarket product section which would be a huge perceived bonus for those ordering their higher end books.  The leather covers would be nice as well but I’d gladly suffer no leather for thicker paper with more paper surface options, then bring in the leather at a later time.  -  Lucian

Posted by
Luke
Aug 16, 2007 11:05am PDT
Permalink
Luke
 

I’m in a similar position to Brian, at the moment I’m dipping my toe in the water to see what is out there regarding bespoke book publishing. 

I have a couple of photographic projects that I am looking to publish in book form, and then to market and sell.  As soon as you deviate from the snapshot type of book the standard of presentation becomes very important – especially if you want to make a profit from it. The only way I can see revenue being generated by selling on photo books is by making sure that they fall into the fine art / high end  market.  That means top quality printing and presentation.  So I would agree with Brian.

At the moment I’m not sure that Blurb can produce the quality at a low enough price point, especially with the ridiculous international postage charges.  I’m still looking and I’m still assessing.  Blurb’s features seem to almost meet all of my needs, but there are still a few holes in its coverage at the moment.  Hopefully Blurb will fill them in soon.

 Steve.

Posted by
S_Street
Aug 16, 2007 11:49am PDT
Permalink
S_Street
 

I don’t disagree with any of the above comments. I do think however, that the issues regarding consistency of quality and service, need to be adressed and rectified before getting into this any deeper. From what I read on these forums, and my own limited experience with Blurb, I think they are going through some growing pains.

I expect this goes for many of their printers as well. This is all a relatively new industry, and a site like this must be creating quite a stir in the printing business. There is a fine line here between getting off to a quick start (to get a jump on competition) and doing it right the first time (or the next guy will be doing it better).

Lets hope that Blurb can iron out the wrinkles before they get shelved.

 Dale 

Posted by
dwags
Aug 16, 2007 12:26pm PDT
Permalink
dwags
 

Brian, I agree with all the comments you make. I can only assume one of the reasons the paper they use was chosen was for its handling capabilities…by the reader and anyone else “flipping through the pages. The paper stock they are using just about eliminates fingerprints and other handling problems you would normally have, even though I agree, glossy sure would make the images “pop”.

Posted by
MIBoris
Aug 16, 2007 3:24pm PDT
Permalink
MIBoris
 

Another voice here for the option for a slighty thicker photo book stock and even a slightly more glossy finish. I just saw the first book printed with my photos (a friend’s wedding) and overall was very happy with the results and ordered a copy for myself. The book’s glossy cover was stunning!  And the software has been amazingly good from the start. I look forward to Vista support and to printing several books in the very near future!

Posted by
pasoccupe
Aug 23, 2007 2:17pm PDT
Permalink
pasoccupe
 

I’m a first time Blub book maker and I agree with the above statements.  I would feel better about the price I charged for my book if the paper quality was better or thicker.

Posted by
Hoseajohnson
Aug 23, 2007 3:50pm PDT
Permalink
Hoseajohnson
 

I have published one book to test the waters. Very happy with everything EXCEPT the quality and thickness of the paper. This is a very big problem for me as a photographer. I would be very dissapointed buying any book printed on such thin ordinary paper.
When a paper of the quality that I am used to buying in the books that I purchase is available then I will be happy to do many more books with Blurb. Till then Im afraid its not worth it.

Posted by
trixie
Sep 9, 2007 11:29pm PDT
Permalink
trixie
 

I have created two books with Blurb and I agree wholeheartedly with Brian. Please…please…please add choices for thicker archival paper quality and glossy finish.  I am extremely happy with everything Blurb has to offer except for this. I do believe this issue is holding back many professional photographers from using your service – but I do know that many people, including myself, are eagerly waiting for this to be included for an additional fee. It would be great if this could be a 2007 priority. Thank you for your kind consideration.

Posted by
bigman123
Sep 10, 2007 3:00am PDT
Permalink
bigman123
 

Brian, we have published several books with Blurb and have now switched to IPhoto because of the paper. We did the same book side-by-side to make a comparison, and the results are startling. The brighter, slightly heavier paper makes all of the difference. We would like to use Blurb, but until you offer more paper choices, we are not satisfied with the result. After all of our work as photographers in capturing and adjusting the image, it has to be printed properly. It would be OK if the price for premium paper was higher.

Posted by
lynnsch
Nov 6, 2007 8:15am PDT
Permalink
lynnsch
 

I have published one book and I was a little disappointed by the paper and print quality when it arrived. I spent a great deal of time in Photoshop perfecting the photos, and they came out bland in the finished book. I totally agree that Blurb should offer some choices of better paper. Especially since it offers ability to sell the books online. Seallable books should be, in my opinion, a top notch quality.

Posted by
pawelek
Nov 11, 2007 7:33am PDT
Permalink
pawelek
 

Looks like this topic was filed under the wrong heading.

Posted by
lcarreira
Nov 11, 2007 9:59am PDT
Permalink
lcarreira