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official FINAL TRIM SIZE & OPTIMAL FILE SIZE FOR FULL BLEED IMAGES (8" x 10" Portrait SOFTCOVER)

in regards to a 8” x 10” Portrait SOFTCOVER book

Please advise if is this 100% correct.

part A)
FINAL TRIM SIZE

final TRIM size (of the 8” x 10” Portrait SOFTCOVER book) is:
w: 7.775” x h: 9.75”

width: 7.775”
(which is 7.9”, less a 0.125” bleed trimmed off the non-gutter side)

height: 9.75”
(which is 10”, less a 0.125” bleed trimmed off the top, and less a 0.125” bleed trimmed off the bottom)

part B)
OPTIMAL FILE SIZE

optimal file size for a FULL BLEED IMAGE is:
w: 2370 pixels x h: 3000 pixels

width:
a full bleed image of EXACTLY 2370 pixels (7.9” at 300 pixels per inch)

height: 10”
a full bleed image of EXACTLY 3000 pixels (10” at 300 pixels per inch)

note 1:

In BookSmart 1.9.1, the software asks for a file:
w: 2363 pixels
which is 7.877” at 300 pixels per inch — an odd measurement ?!

It seems optimal file should be
w: 2370 pixels

Unless of course we are going off metric measurements.

In that case, 2362 pixels is a nice clean measurement of 20 centimeters on the nose.

And 2362 is just one pixel shy of 2363.

I realize that this is splitting hairs…
But I want to set up my InDesign and Photoshop templates correctly.

note 2:

This is a guess.

The reason the

w: 8” x h: 10” softcoverbook is trimmed down to w: 7.775” x h: 9.75”

is so that the trimming of the softcover pages is the same as the trimming of the hardcover pages (which has pages smaller than the exterior hard cover.)

Correct?

Thanks in advance.

Stephen

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Posted by
SAW
Nov 14, 2007 4:25pm PST
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SAW
 

Hello,

I would recommend relying on BookSmart’s rollover info pop-ups that contain the exact measurements of each and every container within our templates. Take the Portrait template, specifically the full bleed page size:

... see the rollover dialogue box? I would build my page size file to that spec and know 1/8 of an inch will be trimmed off the top / bottom and outside edge of your page.

Also, the same rollover exists on the cover full bleed container:

... It is a different size than the full bleed page image container inside your book. (if you choose softcover book on checkout, this will be adjusted to mirror the size of the page. For a softcover, the trims remain the same: 1/8 inch will be trimmed off the top, bottom and outside edge. For a dust jacket, we will only trim from the top and bottom edge for obvious reasons; you have a jacket that includes flaps … ) 

If this information above, or the rollover dialogue info still has you wondering, I recommend building a test .jpg file to the exact size you are considering, color the outside 1/8 inch edge differently so you ‘see’ what will be trimmed and drop that into the respective container, on the cover, or for the full bleed inside page. If sized correctly it should pop right into position filling the container. 

This has worked well for me in all my books. As always, I recommend sending up one book to test your colors, backgrounds and images (and spelling) before pulling the rip cord on a large quantity of that book. Consider that first book your print proof.

Have fun _ Bryan

Posted by
Admiral B
Nov 15, 2007 3:13pm PST
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Admiral B
 

Why can’t you introduce feint guidlines to show the mpact of trimming each page, and take some of the guesswork out of the process?  The Preview mode could show how the pages might be trimmed.

I realise 1/8th inch is perhaps a little variable but a rough guide would be better than no guide at all. 

Posted by
mypinknee
Nov 26, 2007 11:37am PST
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mypinknee